Comments on: Dönerspende Diaries: The Rules of the Grill http://www.hungryinberlin.com/2009/02/26/donerspende-diaries-the-rules-of-the-game/ for foodies in the Hauptstadt... Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:11:19 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Tonio http://www.hungryinberlin.com/2009/02/26/donerspende-diaries-the-rules-of-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-809 Tonio Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:07:04 +0000 http://www.hungryinberlin.com/?p=213#comment-809 I didn't say the fat in cream was "terrible", but cream itself (as opposed to milk) is almost pure fat and cannot reasonably be used as a protein in a meal. The ratio of protein to fat in cream is so low you'd have to consume an enormous amount of cream to get a sufficient amount of protein, with the result that you'd be consuming a truly staggering amount of fat in the process. There's no such thing as low-fat or non-fat cream. If you took the fat out of cream you'd be left with the equivalent of a teaspoon of skim milk mixed into a liter of water. If you don't want your protein to be vegetable-based, use eggs or (preferably low-fat) dairy products like milk, cheese, or yogurt, but not cream. I didn’t say the fat in cream was “terrible”, but cream itself (as opposed to milk) is almost pure fat and cannot reasonably be used as a protein in a meal. The ratio of protein to fat in cream is so low you’d have to consume an enormous amount of cream to get a sufficient amount of protein, with the result that you’d be consuming a truly staggering amount of fat in the process. There’s no such thing as low-fat or non-fat cream. If you took the fat out of cream you’d be left with the equivalent of a teaspoon of skim milk mixed into a liter of water. If you don’t want your protein to be vegetable-based, use eggs or (preferably low-fat) dairy products like milk, cheese, or yogurt, but not cream.

]]> By: aimee m. http://www.hungryinberlin.com/2009/02/26/donerspende-diaries-the-rules-of-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-808 aimee m. Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:09:58 +0000 http://www.hungryinberlin.com/?p=213#comment-808 @tonio: there's certainly fat in dairy products, but it's not all terrible, and opting for low-fat or non-fat milk/cream is probably the best choice, if you're watching that intake. @tonio: there’s certainly fat in dairy products, but it’s not all terrible, and opting for low-fat or non-fat milk/cream is probably the best choice, if you’re watching that intake.

]]> By: aimee m. http://www.hungryinberlin.com/2009/02/26/donerspende-diaries-the-rules-of-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-807 aimee m. Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:06:12 +0000 http://www.hungryinberlin.com/?p=213#comment-807 dairy products definitely have protein; and according to Frances Moore Lappe (the 1970s U.S. guru of veg eating) although dairy products may seem to have less protein by weight than say, beans, it's somehow more "useable" protein, i.e., your body sucks it up better. there is more science here that i'll sort out later, not enough coffee. so yes - cream is a protein. have at it. also: oddly clunky but kind of cool tool, from the U.S.D.A. -- get the nutritional value of all sorts of foods, here: http://199.133.10.140/codesearchwebapp/(ss3ubjywl2zmsw553vtyu245)/codesearch.aspx dairy products definitely have protein; and according to Frances Moore Lappe (the 1970s U.S. guru of veg eating) although dairy products may seem to have less protein by weight than say, beans, it’s somehow more “useable” protein, i.e., your body sucks it up better. there is more science here that i’ll sort out later, not enough coffee.

so yes – cream is a protein. have at it.

also: oddly clunky but kind of cool tool, from the U.S.D.A. — get the nutritional value of all sorts of foods, here:
http://199.133.10.140/codesearchwebapp/(ss3ubjywl2zmsw553vtyu245)/codesearch.aspx

]]> By: Tonio http://www.hungryinberlin.com/2009/02/26/donerspende-diaries-the-rules-of-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Tonio Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:51:46 +0000 http://www.hungryinberlin.com/?p=213#comment-806 Unfortunately not. Cream gets almost all its calories from fat. (See http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/51/2) Unfortunately not. Cream gets almost all its calories from fat. (See http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/51/2)

]]> By: bowleserised http://www.hungryinberlin.com/2009/02/26/donerspende-diaries-the-rules-of-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-805 bowleserised Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:46:07 +0000 http://www.hungryinberlin.com/?p=213#comment-805 Is cream a protein? Is cream a protein?

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